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Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

#1299: Color Pie Evolution

Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast

Wizards of the Coast

Duels Of The Planeswalkers, Magic The Gathering, Games, Mark Rosewater, Ccg, Leisure, Mtg, Game Design

4.7801 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I talk about how the color pie has evolved over the last three decades.

Transcript

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0:01.0

I'm pulling on my driveway.

0:02.6

We all know what that means.

0:04.2

It's time another drive to work.

0:06.8

Okay, so today I'm talking about the color pie because I'm, I don't know if I'm

0:13.3

contractually obligated, but I like talking about the color pie.

0:15.8

So today's question came from my blog.

0:19.5

And the basic question was, you talk about the color by as being this firm, untrenchable

0:26.0

thing, yet you keep talking about changing the color pie.

0:29.2

How exactly does the color pie evolve if the color pie is this unchanging thing?

0:35.1

So that's today's topic, color pie evolution.

0:39.6

So first and foremost,

0:44.9

I guess the first thing we have to discuss is there are two core elements of the color pie.

0:53.2

There's the philosophical elements of the color pie, what the colors represent philosophically.

0:56.5

And then there's mechanical execution of that philosophy.

0:59.3

The philosophy does not change.

1:03.5

I mean, or if it changes in very, very subtle small ways. But the basic idea of what white was in the early days of magic and what white is now

1:09.9

is the same.

1:13.4

I've spent a lot of time fine-tuning it getting better words for it so i've definitely spent more time you know like one of

1:19.3

the things that i do is i got some words for all of them right that like white wants um its ultimate

1:25.3

goal is peace and it gets it through structure blue wants perfection and it gets it through structure.

1:28.7

Blue wants perfection and it gets it through knowledge.

1:32.2

Black wants power and it gets it through opportunity.

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