Oh, hey fellow, what do you got there? What is that? Legal marijuana in your hands? You want a closer look? You activist you? I'm such a radical man. The streets are not safe when I'm out on the loose radical seem like a regular guy yeah yeah regular guy with a irregular amount of

stress with the walrus right there do you don't mind my putting it with a

irregular amount of stress with the walrus right there. Do you don't mind my putting it there?

No, no not at all.

Have you to come back and see it.

No, it stays on the desk.

Yeah, that thing's.

This means as much to us as anybody except for you.

Well, it's nice to see it.

This is my happy place.

This is my safe place.

I got to travel across the country to be safe,

but it's certainly a pleasure to be here again

and Joe I always have to thank you I listen brother I thank you too I was

texting Whitney today I said you're a hero you're a legitimate hero for who don't know what this is all about.

I'll give everybody the backstory.

Phil used to work at Marine Land, he was an orca trainer, and he also trained a Walrus named Smushi.

And Smushi is still allegedly in captivity at

Marine Land, although there's no photographic evidence,

but you're pretty sure she's still there?

I was told that she is still there and she's in good shape and I'm hanging on to that.

Since you came on the podcast the first time, was how many years now so six years

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