That's the big thing. She's forcing herself to eat the salad, which is mentally draining her because she doesn't want to eat it. She wants to eat something else.

So she's mentally draining herself every day to force the salad down, which is, in actuality, you know, sabotaging her results. And she doesn't, you know, she can, so it's both mentally sabotaging is physically sabotaging her results. and where she can go eat what she want and get way better, you know, probably better macros

because she's going to eat a smaller, she's going to eat a smaller portion because it's more feelings to her mentally and physically. When it came to eating and dieting, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. I interviewed over a thousand women and I said, what did you do? Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. What did you eat? How'd you do it?

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Hey guys, welcome to this week's episode.

And today's guest, we've had him on the show before, but it's always nice to have him back on. He was actually

on for our original podcast, right, Chris? Yes, ma'am. It's good to be back here. Yes, and he

actually helped launch our podcast. He's an amazing personal trainer here in Virginia Beach,

and he is actually the person who introduced me to intermittent

fasting so I'm so grateful for him and he's helped me so much in my fitness and weight loss

journey so welcome Chris Sykes thank you I appreciate you having me here so for our listeners

do you remember the first time you telling me about intermittent fasting at the gym for the first time?

I do. I remember you had been a little frustrated for a couple weeks, and I just happened to watch a YouTube video on fasting for the first time. And I remember I watched a whole bunch of them in one day. I think I happened to be training you the day after a couple of days after that. And I told you about it. you were like, I'll try anything right now at this point.

I think he was frustrated with it with a bunch of other diets.

And so I remember I told you about it, you were like, I'll try anything right now at this point. I think he was frustrated with a bunch of other diets. And so I remember I told you

doing a workout one time. And I think you researched it yourself and then from there launched

the IF phase. Awesome. So in my second edition of my book, which we just launched and is out now, waste away,

I talk about people, they don't have to deprive themselves when it comes to food, but everyone

needs to decide for themselves, what are their red light, yellow light, and green light foods?

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