128: Born Again Mormon Shawn McCraney Pt. 3 - Final Thoughts
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 25 February 2010
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
In this episode I speak with Shawn McCraney, author of"I was a Born-again Mormon" and host of"Heart of the Matter", a controversial weekly Christian TV show geared towards LDS Church members. In part 3, I ask Shawn some final questions, and he shares some closing thoughts.
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| 0:00.0 | So, uh, literal hell. |
| 0:29.5 | Uh, remember hell was a place shield, and it's a place for Satan and his angels. |
| 0:35.5 | And there's a prison there, and there's a paradise, okay? |
| 0:39.5 | When Jesus died, he bridged the Gulf, and everybody in paradise, |
| 0:43.5 | the Old Testament prophets who lived by faith and believed, and all the righteous, |
| 0:47.5 | they went to heaven. |
| 0:48.5 | Hell will give up her dead. |
| 0:50.5 | This is what LDS do not understand. |
| 0:52.5 | Hell gives up her dead, and they stand before God before the great white throne. |
| 0:57.5 | This is the revelation, and they're judged by their works. |
| 1:00.5 | And then they are cast down, and there's different levels of eternal fire. |
| 1:04.5 | There's a difference between hell, shield. |
| 1:06.5 | It's a holding place for those who did not go to heaven when they died. |
| 1:10.5 | Hell gives up her dead. |
| 1:11.5 | It's like a spiritual prison. |
| 1:12.5 | It is. It's a spiritual prison, and they're there. |
| 1:15.5 | At the final judgment, the great white throne, Revelation 22, |
| 1:18.5 | they are all come before God, and he opens up the books, and he judges them by their works. |
| 1:23.5 | Before that judgment ever happens, the believers in Christ have already gone, okay? |
| 1:28.5 | So this is what the LDS missionaries will say. |
| 1:31.5 | Read Revelation. |
| 1:32.5 | It says right here, and the books were open, and another book is open, and we're judged by our works. |
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