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#12574 Are There Anglican Sacraments? Early Church and Politics - Joe Heschmeyer

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🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

“What are Anglican sacraments?” This question opens a discussion on the validity of Anglican sacraments, alongside inquiries about communicating the nature of devotionals to non-Catholics and the historical role of laity in the early Church. The conversation also touches on the impact of politics on the split between Orthodox and Roman rites, providing a rich exploration of faith and history.

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Questions Covered:

  • 01:28 – What is “Norming the norm that cannot be normed?”
  • 13:45 – What are some ways to communicate to non-Catholics and fallen away Catholics that devotionals are not obligatory?
  • 21:08 – Why are Anglican sacraments not valid?
  • 28:55 – Why does the New Testament not talk about the fulfillment of the prophecies of the destruction of the Temple?
  • 31:48 – Are there any historical records of the laity in the early church being able to celebrate the Mass?
  • 35:35 – What is Joe’s preferred Bible?
  • 37:41 – If it weren’t for human politics between East and West, would there not have been a split between Orthodox and Roman rites?
  • 46:30 – Does Catholicism have a good answer to modern Biblical scholarship?

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:11.5

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0:35.9

We have an awesome show.

0:37.4

The first hour has been fantastic with, we're prioritizing questions from people who are at OCIA. Or if you're just interested in Catholicism or just exploring it, then you're more than welcome to call. You go up to the line, to the top of the line. If you are a Catholic or you're just not interested in Catholicism, you still call, you're still, you're still good on the line.

0:55.7

Just, you might have to wait a little longer. So with that, Joe, let's go back to the calls because the lines are full.

1:03.9

All right. Let's go to Phoenix, Arizona, where Derek is listening to us or watching us on YouTube.

1:09.6

Derek, welcome to the show. Go right ahead.

1:13.2

Hey, Joe. So great to talk to you. Appreciate all you do, watch all your episodes. Really

1:18.5

appreciate your send to out in this one earlier today. So my question for you, a real good Protestant friend of Vine.

1:29.5

I'm in OCIIA working our way through that, and we got in a discussion about the papacy,

1:34.5

and he asked me what my thoughts were on a phrase called norming the norm that cannot be normed.

1:43.9

I've never heard of it before in my life.

1:47.0

Yeah.

1:47.4

And I just have actually no idea what it is, but it was his way of refuting the pay to see.

1:54.1

Was his name Norman?

1:55.0

I'm just...

1:56.0

Yeah.

1:58.4

And Latin is Norma, Normans, non-normata.

2:03.1

So there's a great alliterative value to it.

2:06.6

But it's the idea that scripture is the unjudged judge of everything.

2:11.1

It's a norm of norms.

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