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The Peter Attia Drive

#125 - John Arnold: The most prolific philanthropist you may not have heard of

The Peter Attia Drive

Peter Attia, MD

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Fitness

4.7 • 7.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2020

⏱️ 148 minutes

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Summary

John Arnold is widely regarded as the greatest natural gas trader of all time, but in his late 30’s he walked away from it all and turned full-time philanthropist. He and his wife have committed to strategically give away most of their vast fortune in their lifetime and are already doing so at a staggering pace of nearly a half billion dollars a year. In this episode, John explains his quest to address the most challenging social programs plaguing the country, including criminal justice, health care policy, and K-12 education. John also shares self-identified attributes that contributed to his success in natural gas trading and how those same traits have translated to his philanthropic aspirations.

We discuss:

  • John’s background, upbringing, and early entrepreneurial tendencies [3:50];
  • John’s time and rise at Enron [16:45];
  • Characteristics that made John an exceptional natural gas trader and how they translate to his philanthropic work [27:30];
  • The collapse of Enron [35:00];
  • The success of John’s hedge fund, and his early interest in philanthropy [40:30];
  • The infamous 2006 trade that brought down Amaranth Advisors [55:45];
  • John’s analytical prowess and emphasis on fundamentals [1:02:15];
  • The decision to become a full-time philanthropist and the founding of Arnold Ventures [1:09:00];
  • Education—John’s quest to fundamentally change K-12 education [1:18:45];
  • Strategic philanthropy—preventing problems by attacking root causes and creating structural change [1:24:30];
  • The criminal justice system—structural changes needed to address mass incarceration, policing practices, and recidivism [1:31:45];
  • Re-imagining prisons to reduce recidivism [1:49:00];
  • US health care policy—John’s focus on drug prices, and the severe consequences of not making system changes [1:56:15];
  • Climate change—the bipartisan role of John’s foundation [2:13:45];
  • Advice for young adults interested in philanthropy [2:17:45]; and
  • More

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Now, without further delay, here's today's episode.

0:51.0

I guess this week is John Arnold.

0:53.0

John is probably the guy that'll go down in history as the most successful natural gas

0:58.8

trader of all time.

1:00.6

We spend the first part of this episode explaining that story, and you might think, well, what does

1:06.0

that have to do with anything?

1:07.4

Well, it's only by understanding how John came to amass a fortune of billions of dollars

1:15.0

trading natural gas.

1:16.3

Can you understand the second part of this discussion, which is how at the age of about

1:21.2

37 or 38, he shut it all down and turned all of his attention to the full-time craft

1:28.6

slash business slash art of philanthropy.

1:32.4

John's philanthropy is as serious as his natural gas trading, and his foundation, Arnold Ventures,

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