#12495 Can “Cafeteria Christians” Be Saved? The Four Types of Bad Christians - Trent Horn
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🗓️ 10 December 2025
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Summary
“Can Cafeteria Christians be saved?” This question opens a discussion on the complexities of faith and morality, addressing the challenges faced by those who pick and choose their beliefs. Other topics include the moral implications of conformist and nonconformist attitudes, as well as the distinctions between various types of Christians and their approaches to morality.
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Questions Covered:
- 05:00 – Understanding the grid of extremes
- 14:45 – Cafeteria Christian conformist and morally lax
- 18:23 – Prog Christian Conformist and morally rigorous
- 31:35 – Barbaric Nonconformist and morally lax
- 45:35 – Fundamentalists nonconformist and morally rigorous
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Catholic Answers live. Thanks so much for being here with us. You're kind of here with us. We're on retreat today, |
| 0:21.1 | but we've got a brand new, wonderful conversation with Trent Horn, and we're going to take |
| 0:27.9 | some of his patron questions in the second hour. In the first hour, Trent gave a wonderful talk |
| 0:34.3 | at the Catholic Answers Conference this year. Well, he gives a wonderful talk every year. |
| 0:39.3 | But he's a big superstar there. Everybody loves them, and he does a great job. But this time, |
| 0:44.8 | he kind of went a little risky. He risked our ire by telling us four kinds of bad Christians. |
| 0:51.9 | He risked our ire because some of us could identify ourselves in these four kinds of bad Christians, because he risked our ire because some of us could |
| 0:54.9 | identify ourselves in these four types of bad Christians. Trent Horn is an apologist here |
| 1:00.1 | at Catholic Answers, author of all kinds of wonderful books, including the single most popular |
| 1:04.3 | book ever published by Catholic Answers Press, Why We're Catholic, and of course, Council of |
| 1:09.2 | Trent is what people know him for, where he is both |
| 1:12.9 | erratic and persuasive. I looked up those vocabulary words in order to say something about |
| 1:20.3 | Trent today. Hello, Trent Horn. Thanks for being here. |
| 1:22.9 | I am astounded by your verbosity, sigh. |
| 1:26.1 | Oh, much gracias. And your magnanimous introduction. Oh, well, don't be lugubrious. Oh, I don't even actually know what that one means. Sorry, I maybe messed up there. I always thought that it had something to do with peanuts. Like, don't be legumias, like a legume. It does, yes, legume. It does have a little bit of a... It sounds like a gooey peanut |
| 1:47.3 | treat. And that's what it feels like to be lugubrious as well. You're a gooey melted peanut. |
| 1:54.2 | Yeah. So what, why did you want to talk to us about four kinds of bad Christians what was it what got |
| 2:01.4 | into you so for the conference uh I was on the plane flying to San Diego and I typed into |
| 2:09.0 | chat GPT hi chat GPT I really need to wow them at this year's conference and I sort of put |
| 2:15.1 | things off what would be a good topic. |
| 2:17.6 | And it just it just spat this right out for me. |
| 2:20.6 | Unbelievable. |
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