124. Flashers: The case of Wayne Couzens

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Former Metropolitan Police officer, Wayne Couzens, kidnapped, raped and murdered Sarah Everard, in March, 2021.

Hosts Amber Haque and Dr Julia Shaw discuss the findings of The Angiolini Inquiry, and how the crime of indecent exposure may indicate a potential trajectory towards even more serious sexual and violent offending.

Producer: Lorna Reader Executive Producers: Innes Bowen and Joe Kent Production Coordinator: Juliette Harvey Mix Engineer: John Scott Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton

Bad People is a BBC Studios production for BBC Sounds.

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0:44.6	BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. You're listening to Bad People on BBC Sounds,
0:50.5	the podcast about the bad things people do and why. This episode contains discussions of different themes, including kidnap, violence, sexual violence, disturbing sexual behaviour,
0:56.2	mental health and murder from the start. So if those are topics that you'd rather avoid,
1:02.1	skip to one of our other episodes. Hi, Julia. Hi, Amber. Is Gail Clayton here from West Wales, Nick Amarthen. I'm quite a fan, I have to say, of bad people. I have definitely listened to every episode. I am getting in touch because I was actually a victim of a crime. A couple of months ago now, when I was actually a victim of a cry a couple of months ago now when I was driving
1:31.5	on the M4 and this is the first time I'd been on a solo camper van trip carpooled alongside me
1:38.7	and the guy was driving very close. I looked sideways and there he was exposing himself and then zoomed off.
1:49.5	You don't know how to react. It's just completely out the blue on your normal day.
1:53.6	Anyway, I did call the police and they did take it very seriously. That was really reassuring.
2:00.2	It could be just thinking, why do people do this?
2:04.1	And I thought, do you know what? Julia might know. She might have some research that shows why
2:11.2	people carry out this very strange crime. If there's any answers, Julia and Amber, I'm sure there's a lot of information you've found
2:22.2	out about Wayne Cousins and all the horrific crimes that he committed as well.
2:28.7	Wayne Cousins was, I think he was actually being investigated for indecent exposure when he was arrested.
2:36.2	Okay, bye.
2:37.9	Thanks to Gail for sharing and sorry to hear what you've had to experience.
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