#12385 Disagreeing with the Pope | AMA Papacy @shamelesspopery - Joe Heschmeyer
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🗓️ 24 September 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
“What should you do if you disagree with the pope?” This episode tackles this important question while also exploring whether ex-cathedra statements are a recent development in the Church, the purpose behind papal interviews, and the implications of the pope’s humanity on his infallibility. Tune in for a thoughtful discussion on these pressing topics.
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Questions Covered:
- 02:45 – What should you do if you disagree with the pope?
- 15:29 – The ex-cathedra statements from the papacy seem to be a new addition and weren’t in the early Church. Are they a new addition?
- 23:11 – Why is the pope doing papal interviews if he has a seat where he can make announcements?
- 30:47 – If the pope is human, how can he not commit error?
- 36:30 – I’m in OCIA and I want to attend the latin mass but how do I know whether the latin mass church accepts or rejects the pope and Vatican II?
- 43:32 – To what extent does the pope have to make changes and reform the liturgy?
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| 0:46.8 | forward to that. Joe Heschmeier will be there, and he is our guest both hours today, and we're |
| 0:52.1 | going to talk about the papacy. He wrote a book about the papacy, Pope Peter, |
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| 1:16.8 | Joe Heschmire, wonderful apologist. |
| 1:18.5 | He's the guy behind shameless popery. |
| 1:21.1 | He himself is a shameless papist, and his podcast is called Shameless Popery, |
| 1:26.1 | author of a whole bunch of books, including the aforementioned Pope Peter. Hey, welcome, Joe. Thanks. Good to be here. Were you not sure whether or not you're supposed to wear a flannel shirt today, or did you know for sure that? It didn't even occur to me to think if I should wear a flannel shirt. Sometimes you're so irresponsible that circles back around to doing the right thing. |
| 1:44.5 | Yeah, yeah. |
| 1:45.3 | All right. |
| 1:46.2 | So what are you doing? |
| 1:47.4 | Just leaving the show and getting on an airplane? |
| 1:50.1 | I'm leaving tomorrow morning at 6, so I get to fly out early. |
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