#12361 What Biblical Texts Support the Mass and Transubstantiation? - Tom Nash
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🗓️ 8 September 2025
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Summary
“What Biblical Texts Support the Mass and Transubstantiation?” In this episode, we explore key scriptural references that underpin the Mass, while also addressing questions about the differences between transubstantiation and consubstantiation, the changes made during Vatican II, and how the early Christians might perceive today’s Catholic Mass. Tune in for a thoughtful examination of these important topics.
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Questions Covered:
- 02:00 – What biblical texts support the practice of the Mass?
- 18:02 – What’s the difference between transubstantiation and consubstantiation?
- 30:53 – Why during Vatican 2 did they decide to take out so much to form this new liturgy?
- 36:50 – How do you respond to the claim that if the Early Christians were to see the Catholic mass, they wouldn’t recognize it as their form of worship?
- 44:45 – Where do you even see the Mass in the Bible?
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| 0:34.0 | Two great guests today, two great topics. |
| 0:39.4 | Second hour, Mark Brumley will be here. The, |
| 0:46.2 | the extraordinary, the outstanding, the exceptional Mark Brumley, president of Ignatius Press. |
| 0:49.8 | And we're going to talk, we're going to ask him about the Second Vatican Council. Sorry, |
| 0:54.8 | you know what, this Second Vatican Council is actually all these years later, more controversial than maybe I was expecting at this point. And so we'll ask him about what to make of the Second Vatican Council |
| 1:01.2 | all these years later. But then we'll open it up for an ask me anything. You can ask him anything, |
| 1:04.9 | that's second hour. This hour, we're going to talk about the Eucharist, the Mass, I should say, in Scripture with the man to talk about that. |
| 1:15.6 | Tom Nash, apologists, extraordinaire, theologian, and full-time now, staff apologists here at Catholic Answers. |
| 1:23.6 | Hello, Tom Nash. |
| 1:25.6 | How you doing, Sy? Good to be with you in the Catholic |
| 1:27.8 | Gansers audience. Thank you. Thank you. That did not strike me as super enthusiastic. Are you sad |
| 1:35.1 | about being with me today, Tommy? It seemed perfunctory the way that you said that. |
| 1:40.7 | Perfungtery, I thought it was serene. I thought it was serene. Oh, it was serene. Well, you're, one man's serene is another man's perfunctory, as they say. The number, if you like to talk about the mass, 8883187-884, triple-8-388-4, Tom, I need you to make the show good today because this literally happened to me. At 2 o'clock in the afternoon, I said the most old man thing |
| 2:02.8 | that you could say, Edgar was there. He heard me say it because I actually thought this. This thought |
| 2:07.7 | came into my head and I let it come out. And Edgar heard me say it. I said, Edgar's your producer, |
| 2:12.0 | one of your producers. And I said, I wonder how early I can go to bed tonight. I said that. I |
| 2:17.3 | said, I wonder how early I can go to bed tonight. I said that. I wonder how early I can go to. Like, I'm at the age where in the middle of the afternoon, I'm thinking, could I just hit the sizzler and be in bed by seven? Like, that's my basic approach. So you have to make the show good, Tom. I'm not the guy to make the show. I will try to keep you and everyone else awake. Oh, keep me energized stuff. |
| 2:35.0 | I said out loud to my work colleagues. |
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