This is Jocco Podcast number 123 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

Good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

Now, this podcast is the third in a series of podcasts that I've done.

And if you haven't listened to podcasts number 121 and 122,

then go back and listen to those episodes before you listen to this one.

The first of those podcasts number 121 tells the story of Chesty Puller,

the iconic and heroic Marine Corps legend that fought in five wars,

was awarded five Navy crosses, the most of any servicemen ever.

And he retired as a three star general after rising through the ranks from private.

Podcast 122 tells a much different story.

It tells the story of Chesty Puller's son, Lewis Puller Jr.,

who also joined the Marine Corps, who fought in Vietnam,

who was horrifically wounded and continued to fight against pain and against loss

and against depression and addiction when he returned home from war.

And in the end, he lost that battle.

After falling back into the downward spiral of alcohol and prescription pain killers,

he became another statistic of the most dreadful kind.

He turned the gun on himself and took his own life.

And as I said at the beginning of this series,

I was seriously questioning whether or not I could do this podcast.

If I had the wherewithal to gut through the pain of that story,

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