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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1221: Andrew Bustamante | A Spy's Guide to Our Dangerous World Part Two

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Jordan Harbinger

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4.8 β€’ 12.1K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

The intelligence world is evolving rapidly. Former CIA officer Andrew Bustamante explains Cold War tech, Ukraine strategy, and global conflicts. [Pt. 2/2 β€” catch Pt. 1/2 here!]

Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1221

What We Discuss with Andrew Bustamante:

  • Jeffrey Epstein was likely an FBI confidential informant rather than a CIA asset. The FBI can grant immunity for domestic crimes, while CIA has no authority to provide legal cover for American citizens committing crimes in the US.
  • Blackmail is the weakest form of manipulation. Once information is released, it can be denied as fake or AI-generated, and the blackmailer has already spent their only leverage with no guarantee of success.
  • Social media isn't a battlefield β€” it's a mosh pit with all offensive operations and no defense. State actors create chaos cheaply, forcing opponents to spend vastly more resources fighting disinformation.
  • Israel serves as a strategic watchdog for US interests. By weakening Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran, Netanyahu has secured not just Israel but also Saudi Arabia and the United States for two decades.
  • CIA persuasion and influence techniques are based on empirical science and human behavior patterns. You can learn to build trust, read people, and communicate effectively by understanding these age-old principles in everyday life.
  • And much more...

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Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the

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stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most fascinating people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use to impact your own life and those around you. Our mission is to help you become a better-informed, more critical thinker through long-form conversations with a variety of amazing folks, from spies to CEOs, athletes, authors, thinkers, and performers, even the occasional neuroscientist, correspondent, four-star general or real-life pirate. If you're new to the show or you want to tell your friends about the show, and I always appreciate it when you do that, I suggest our episode starter packs. These are collections of our favorite episodes on topics like persuasion and negotiation, psychology and geopolitics, disinformation, China, North Korea, crime and cults, and more. It'll help new listeners get a taste of everything we do here on the show. Just visit Jordan Harbinger.com slash start, or search for us in your Spotify app to get started. Today, part two with Andrew Bustamante. If you haven't heard part one, of course, go back and listen to that one first. We're talking about espionage, Epstein, Iran, Ukraine,raine and more now let's continue this conversation here

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with andrew bustamante surveillance states like the uae what's it like living in a place like that

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you know nobody wants to hear it but there's a lot of conveniences that come from living in a

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surveillance state it's super safe it's a big part of why I really do think that the U.S. is on a trend

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towards being more of a surveillance state because it's so convenient, it's so safe, it's so

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efficient. In the United Arab Emirates, I lived in Abu Dhabi for a while, and as soon as you

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enter, you're given a national ID. You don't have to be a resident or a citizen, but you're

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given a national ID because your national ID is tied to your

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passport and then you're required to create to have a local bank account. So now your passport,

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your credit card, your bank account and your national ID are all linked. If you rent a car,

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it's linked. If you own a car, it's linked. And the reason that happens is so that anywhere you go,

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cameras can either pick up on the RFID and your ID, they can connect everything. There's no showing up in court

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if you get a speeding ticket. You're immediately fined. They see you going too fast on a camera that's

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sitting every quarter mile, every half mile along the highway. They don't call them miles there.

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