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Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger.

On the Jordan Harbinger show, we decode the stories, secrets, and skills are the world's most

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Spotify app to get started. Today, once again, back on the show for another round is Andrew Bustamante

of Everyday Spy. Former CIA Tradecraft, teacher of spy school, and the guy who could make number

stations and one-time pads sound downright cozy. We're ripping into covert communications, disinformation campaigns,

deep fakes, and why millions of wealthy Americans are whispering about leaving the country.

We'll talk Ukraine, Iran, surveillance states, the Mossad, Epstein's intelligence ties, what

spies actually look for in a story, and the tradecraft that still works in a digital world. Here we go with Andrew Bustamante. Man, every time I see you, you got more hair. More hair. It's almost like it grows out of your head. It won't happen much longer, though. Now you're going to get rid of it? Yes. Donating it to charity. Oh, okay. That's cool. You went from silent operative to side show bob.

Side show bob, dude.

That's exactly what it feels like. Oh, good. This is a weird way to start the show, but you're one of the only people who might know about this. Have you heard of number stations? Yes. Yeah. Can you explain it, actually? Or is it's a British phenomenon, I'm pretty sure.

It's actually international.

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