really the theological biblical understanding of death is alienation from God and so going back to your

original question of what's freedom I think we don't realize as humans living in a fallen world that

we apart from Jesus we are enslaved to the bondage of sin and death which are enemies to us and what

we get through Christ and again this is like what we have to get not just in our enemies to us, and what we get through Christ, and again, this is

like what we have to get, not just in our head, but in our heart. What we get through Christ

is the freedom of choice. Like, I expect sinners to sin, and I expect them to love it.

Right, right. But for people who have been changed by Jesus and for people who have been filled with the

Holy Spirit, there's a conviction to make different choices. And those choices don't lead to

death and destruction. They lead to life.

You're listening to God Hears Her, a podcast for women where we explore the stunning truth that God hears you, he sees you, and he loves you because you are his.

Find out how these realities free you today on God Hears Her.

Welcome to God Hears Her. I'm Erin Eddy. And I'm Alyssa Morgan. Today we are welcoming back

our past guest, Natasha's sisterunk Robinson. But this time we'll be talking about freedom.

Natasha has done a lot of studying on the book of Exodus and the message that God wants us to know about freedom in our day.

The world has a tendency to oppress and depress, which can cause us to be in bondage of our own thoughts or situations.

Join us for this conversation on God hears her with a starting question.

How do we define freedom?

I think it's layers to it. I think, you know, personally,

theologically, emotionally,

relationally.

But I think one thing I think about

when I think about freedom is choice

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