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Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

122: ☎️ Phone a Snake: Your Unpopular End of an Era Opinions

Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In the latest and greatest episode of Phone a Snake, we open the lines to YOUR unpopular End of an Era opinions and promptly descend into chaos. We talk meth math, meta-performance delusions, Matty Healy signaling conspiracies, Showgirl truthers, and the increasing inability of fandom to distinguish subtext from canon. We unpack the docuseries as both emotional reset and expectation correction, debate whether Showgirl is Lover-coded or simply vibing, and grapple with what it means to put your hand-heart back up after months of discourse rot. Enjoy!

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Evolution of a Snake.

0:17.6

And I am Madeline.

0:20.4

And this is another installment of the highly

0:22.5

beloved, highly coveted, highly sought after phone a snake. Everywhere we go, people ask,

0:29.5

when is the next phone a snake going to be? When are you doing phone a snake?

0:32.7

Zach, look over here. Madeline over here. When are you going to do phone a snake?

0:35.9

Oh, kids, the lights are so blinding. I mean, leave us alone. But also, I mean, if you ever wanted to see the ultimate

0:43.5

phone of snake experience, which is live and in person, Evolution of a Snake.com because the

0:49.6

snarest tour is coming to Australia. We are coming to Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney. Melbourne, you sold this out, so we had to add a second show. Come and hang. We want to see you, Evolutionofa Snake.com, for tickets. And if you like Phonisnake, you should definitely go to Patreon.com slash Riftologist because we are going to have a bonus bonus snake available for you now discussing salacious topics that we can't cover on the main channel. We're going to be talking more about Tavis. We're going to be talking about Joe Alwyn. We're going to be talking about torture poets versus showgirl. We're going to be talking about Jack Antonoff and Max Martin. You need to go there and be with us. This is kind of, I guess, even the end of the era's content. By the time this comes out, like we will have recapped every episode of the docu-series.

1:31.8

And this is kind of our final word for the foreseeable future on the eras tour.

1:38.9

I'm bereft.

1:39.6

I'm very bereft about it.

1:42.0

It's very strange to think about, it's like she said, the only thing left is to close the book.

1:45.7

This really does feel like closing the book.

1:47.3

Like it actually is starting to feel acutely like Eros tour is over.

1:53.4

I remember you sent me a video where you said, oh, you can see us in this video in Chicago Night 1.

1:58.8

And like something about like seeing us in that video and being like, oh my God, that was two years ago.

2:05.1

Almost three years. This June, correct me from wrong, it's going to be three years since Chicago.

2:12.5

That's not clicking. Madeline was a barista when the Erestorese started. No, I was, I had to beg on my hands and knees for the time off and my boss almost didn't give it to me. And what she didn't know was that I was going either way. So it's a good thing. You said I'll go jobless. Yeah, I'll pretend me with a good time. And I should really, that was a really bad idea considering what we had to pay for those tickets. I should not have been

2:34.8

threatening job. We were not in a position at that point to be saying, we said we're going to blow

2:40.7

the entire paycheck on tickets. Yeah. And we did. And I don't regret a single moment of it.

2:48.7

It was amazing. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. What can I say?

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