122: Part 1: Jim Lawler Recruits Spies, Chases Nukes, and Tracks Bioweapons for CIA

Game of Crimes

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4.8 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

James Lawler served for 25 years as a CIA operations officer in various international posts and was a member of CIA's Senior Intelligence Service from 1998 until retirement in 2005. He was a specialist in the recruitment of foreign spies, and he spent well over half of his CIA career battling the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. As Chief of the A.Q. Khan Nuclear Takedown Team, his team disrupted the most dangerous nuclear weapons network in history.

He’s the author of two books: Living Lies,” an espionage story of the Iranian nuclear weapons program, and “In the Twinkling of an Eye,” about a devastating covert Russian-North Korean genetic bioweapons program. You can find his books on Amazon.

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0:00.0	I'd like to do an intro, but I can barely see because Murph's face looks like the surface
0:17.7	of the sun.
0:18.7	Yeah, baby.
0:19.7	I got a little color.
0:20.7	Did I got my vitamin D today?
0:23.5	You got your vitamin S for sunburn, man.
0:27.9	Let's see.
0:28.9	Can't tell if my arms, yeah, my arms a little bit.
0:31.1	You got a little bit.
0:32.1	So anyway, hey, guys, welcome to episode 122, Game of Crimes.
0:35.5	I am Morgan.
0:36.6	This is Murph, hey, everybody.
0:40.4	And what were you doing just before I mean, we're recording this on a Sunday because I
0:44.0	was tied up a week and I'll tell you about that in a second, but you were doing something
0:46.8	pretty awesome.
0:47.8	You sent me a video.
0:48.8	Oh, yeah.
0:49.8	We got to go to the Orlando air show and the the the stars were the Air Force Thunderbirds.
0:55.2	I haven't seen them since I was a kid.
0:56.5	I've seen the Blue Angel several times, but I haven't seen them since I was a kid in Tennessee.
1:01.6	But just going to the air show just makes you so frickin' proud of our military and what
1:07.7	they can do.
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