#12183 If Jesus Paid for Our Sins, Why Do Catholics Believe in Purgatory? - Karlo Broussard
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🗓️ 6 May 2025
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Summary
If Christ’s death paid the full price for our sins, why do Catholics still teach purgatory? In this episode, we break down common objections using Scripture and tradition—explaining why purgatory isn’t a rejection of Christ’s sacrifice, but a deepening of its transformative power.
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Questions Covered:
- 05:42 – Where is “purgatory” in the Bible?
- 12:50 – Catholics appeal to 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 for purgatory. But Paul doesn’t say the person is tested by fire. Rather, he teaches “works” are tested by fire.
- 16:52 – Catholics appeal to Jesus’ teaching about the unforgivable sin not being forgiven in this age or in the age to come in Matthew 12:32. But all Jesus meant by this is that the unpardonable sin is never forgiven, as Mark’s version makes clear in 3:29.
- 22:10 – Does the doctrine of purgatory contradict the Bible’s teaching on the immediacy of heaven after death (“to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord”)?
- 29:30 – Didn’t Jesus tell the thief on the cross, “Today you will be with me in paradise”? Doesn’t that disprove purgatory?
- 35:40 – Doesn’t the Bible teach that there are only two eternal destinies: heaven or hell?
- 39:55 – Didn’t Jesus’ death on the cross fully pay for all our sins? Why would additional purification be needed?
- 48:34 – Isn’t the idea of purgatory a denial of justification by faith alone?
- 49:55 – Why would a loving God punish believers after death if they’re already saved?
Transcript
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| 0:14.5 | Music Hello and welcome to Catholic Answers live. I am Cy Kellett, your host. Our guest, |
| 0:35.4 | both hours, is Dr. Carlo Roussard, and we're going to do something kind of fun today. |
| 0:41.1 | At least I am anticipating that will be a great deal of fun and what we're going to do. |
| 0:45.2 | Different from what we usually do, but I think in a very positive way, a lot of times, you know, we get in the middle of the show a question about purgatory or the end |
| 0:55.8 | of the show or, you know, it's just in there, mixed in there somewhere. And this time we thought, |
| 1:00.0 | let's get all of the objections to purgatory. Pergatory is actually quite an obstacle for a good |
| 1:05.9 | number of people. It also poses a bit of confusion for people. So today, what we'll do, and we will take calls second hour. |
| 1:15.2 | The second hour will open up the phones and take whatever calls come about purgatory. |
| 1:20.2 | Today, objections to purgatory with Dr. Carla Broussard. Dr. Carla Broussard is the author of a whole bunch of books, including |
| 1:27.7 | Purgatory is for Real, good news about the afterlife for those who aren't perfect yet. |
| 1:33.2 | And his latest book, The Saints Pray for You, How the Christians in Heaven Help Us Here on Earth. |
| 1:39.2 | By his book titles, you would think, he spends most of his time talking about what happens |
| 1:42.7 | after you die. Dr. |
| 1:44.4 | Bussard, welcome. Sye, thanks for having me. It's great to be on with you, my friend. |
| 1:49.8 | Are you always thinking about what happens after we die? |
| 1:53.8 | Let's see. That's a good question. Am I always thinking? I don't think so. I'm going to have to |
| 1:58.3 | answer that question in the negative. I don't think I'm always thinking about what happens in the afterlife. |
| 2:04.7 | But I guess implicitly because I do tend to think a lot about theological mysteries and my relationship with Christ, |
| 2:13.5 | which ultimately is ordered toward the afterlife. |
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