All right. We are diving in to an episode today that I'm very excited to share with you,

featuring one of my clients. And back in December, January, no, January of this year,

so 2025, I hosted an event in Detroit, Michigan. And I had this

idea, and I'm probably going to do more of this, where I teach my storytelling framework. So this is

played off of a framework that I was taught when I was writing my book,

dying to be a good mother. And over the years, what I've noticed, like post-writing

my book is when I teach the storytelling framework or teach my clients or people who are in

my world how to tell really good stories. It is not just a

communication tool, but it is also an effective healing strategy. And so you're probably going to

hear more and more about this. So the reason why I'm telling you this is because I, at that event,

I had all the women write

stories.

And Kelly wrote a story and it was a beautiful story.

Everybody at the event was crying and we voted.

And Kelly actually won the vote.

And so the next day we went into the podcast studio and she told her story

again. And then we talked about her journey of working with me and all the things. So you're going to

hear in today's episode, Kelly talk about, you know, the grief she didn't expect after becoming a grandmother.

So no one tells you, I'm just reading the intro here, no one tells you that joy and grief

can live in the same moment, especially when you become a grandmother.

In the episode with Kelly and I today, we're going to unpack the emotional

transition of watching your daughter become a mother. And what begins as pride can unexpectedly stir up

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