1214: What Psychedelic Therapy Taught Me About Trauma, Grief, and Trust with Andrea Owen
Emotionally Uncomfortable
Hosted by Heather Chauvin | Insights inspired by Mel Robbins, Bréne Brown, Danielle Laporte, Elizab
4.6 • 576 Ratings
🗓️ 4 June 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
What if talk therapy isn't enough to move the trauma that's been stuck in your body for decades?
In this episode, Heather sits down with Andrea Owen—author, speaker, and long-time recovery advocate—to talk about psychedelic therapy, self-trust, and why she made the controversial decision to try ketamine after 13 years of sobriety.
Listen in as they explore:
🩶 Why Andrea chose ketamine therapy after years of talk therapy and sobriety
🩶 The moment she realized her trauma was trapped in her 17-year-old self
🩶 How psychedelic healing helped her stop white-knuckling life and start living again
If you've ever felt stuck in your healing or wondered what it means to truly trust yourself, this conversation is for you.
About Andrea
Keynote Speaker. Life coach. Author. Hellraiser. Andrea Owen is creating a global impact in women's empowerment with her books being translated into 19 languages and available in 23 countries. She helps high-achieving women maximize unshakeable confidence, master their mindset, and magnify their courage. You can learn more at andreaowen.com.
Connect with Andrea
https://andreaowen.com/
https://www.facebook.com/heyandreaowen/
https://www.instagram.com/heyandreaowen/
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| 0:00.0 | This is from the revised and updated version of 52 ways to live a kick-ass life. |
| 0:05.0 | Chapter 1 is a brand new chapter called You've Come a Long Way, Baby. |
| 0:09.6 | If you're anything like me, the U of 11 years ago might have been a quote-unquote hot mess compared |
| 0:16.7 | to the U of today. |
| 0:18.7 | And that's perfectly okay. |
| 0:20.6 | It's not about looking back with regret. It's about recognizing the growth of today. And that's perfectly okay. It's not about looking back with regret. |
| 0:22.9 | It's about recognizing the growth and wisdom you've gained along the way as you build |
| 0:27.6 | your very own kick-ass life. |
| 0:30.1 | I am so excited for this conversation because one thing I truly appreciate about you is |
| 0:36.7 | there's no mask. |
| 0:40.0 | I know. |
| 0:40.9 | Sometimes I wish I just had access to one, but I don't. |
| 0:44.4 | What did you say on Instagram the other day? |
| 0:46.8 | Or I re-shared it and you were like, oh, I'm a masochist. |
| 0:49.9 | Something about grief and love. |
| 0:52.5 | Oh, I said they are like a really committed couple. Like I had the thought and I'm like, I'm going to make a real about this. Like love and grief are like the most committed couple that have been married for hundreds of years and are just obsessed with each other because you don't get one without the other. They're one and the same. And I, at the end, I said, is it just me? Am I just a masochist? Like, because I keep showing up for love. I've had, like, probably all of your listeners. I've had my heart shattered more than once, like, trauma-bonded heart-shattering. And I'm still like, I get up and I'm like, all right, what's next? |
| 1:29.0 | I'm ready. |
| 1:29.9 | I'm ready again. |
| 1:34.7 | Do you think, and I know this is going to go into the conversation that we're about to have, |
| 1:42.3 | there's like two, when I say two types of people, I'm obviously categorizing a lot of people, but people who are just committed in this lifetime |
| 1:45.8 | to find that freedom within themselves. |
| 1:49.6 | And then people who are like, I'm good. |
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