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I'm Cy Kellett, your host.

And as promised, Dr. Andrew Willard Jones, our guest this hour, a brand new book called The Church Against the State on Subsidiarity and Sovereignty.

And, you know, we don't, as you know, we try very hard not to talk about politics.

We don't do economics on this show.

You know, we talk about the faith and we try to share the faith.

And so let's break all those rules this hour.

Let's talk about politics and economics and all of that stuff.

Dr. Andrew Willard Jones is professor of history and political theory at the College of St. Joseph

the Worker in Steubenville, Ohio.

Dr. First of all, welcome.

Thank you.

And congratulations on the new book. Thank you very much for having me. It's great to have you here with us. I've been, I have to say, I've been

enjoying reading the book, but also I have, it's, it's, your way of understanding some ideas that I thought I was familiar with was challenging to me.

And the idea of subsidiarity in particular.

And in some cases, I felt it was quite exhilarating what you were describing when you talked about

subsidiarity.

And so maybe you could start there with us.

I mean, you put it right in the subhead of the book on subsidiarity and sovereignty so maybe you could start there with us. I mean, you put it right in the subhead

of the book on subsidiarity and sovereignty. So what is subsidiarity? Yeah, great. Well, the easiest

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