This is Jockel Podcast number one twenty one with Echo Charles and me Jockel

Willink. Good evening echo. Good evening. I'm going to tell you a story and this

is a story of war and pain and love and death and this story this is a heroic

story quite possibly one of the most heroic stories and at the same time this

story is also a tragedy and it is quite possibly one of the most tragic stories.

This is a story of a father and a son. This is a story that spans six wars each

one more difficult than the next. This is a story of life and like all stories of

life this story ends the way that all lives and this story ends in death. There is

no story book ending. There is no walking off into the sunset. There is no

mercy and no quarter and no remorse from death and as I prepared to tell this

story there were times when I started to decide against it where I began to

think it would be too much. There was another part of me that spoke louder and

spoke stronger and that other part of me that knows that to hide from the

darkness is only to allow darkness to grow and I will not do that. I will tell

this story and this story that I am going to tell is not just a story it is not

made up. The story is the real story of the real lives of two men, two

Marines, a father and a son who fought many battles both literally and

metaphorically and who did their best to fight and win and who we can both learn

a lot from. But we can only learn if we listen we can only learn if we study

and we can only learn if we remember what these men went through what they did

how they lived and how they died. I will begin the story with the father. He is the

most famous Marine in the history of the Marine Corps. He is one of the most

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