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Learn more at realestateforlife.org. Hello and welcome back to Catholic Answers Live, our number two of our Ask Me Anything with Joe Heschmeier. Staff Apologist here,

speaker, podcaster, recent debater in the last couple days,

and author of numerous Catholic.com articles.

Before he came on with Catholic Answers, he was blogger at Shameless Popery,

and Shameless Popery is now a podcast that you can listen to on YouTube

and anywhere else. And of course, author of full-length books such as Pope Peter, the Eucharist

is really Jesus. And the early church is the Catholic Church, Joe Heschmire. Welcome back to

Hour 2 of Ash Wednesday, Ash Me Anything. I really appreciate it. I appreciate that you've

accepted the renaming of Ash Me Anything. I really appreciate it. I appreciate that you've accepted the renaming of Ashme

Anything. I've accepted the inevitability that Joe is just going to say it if I don't. So I might as well

just clear it out of the way. So the number to call is 8883-1-8-7-884 if you have a question for Joe

Heschmeier. And as it turns out, you know, who do we have up next?

But Asher calling from Tyler, Texas listening on Catholic.com. Asher, please tell me that's your real name. That's perfect.

That's great. That is very. Awesome. Asher me anything. Yep. Go ahead, Asher. Asher Joe, your question.

I think you might be on speakerphone. Can you get off speaker phones so we can hear you?

There we go. Is this better?

Yes, yes, much better. All right. Go ahead, Asher.

So my best friend is a messianic Jew, and when debating him, he rejects all the church fathers,

even like Ignatius or Cidicate, claiming they teach differently from Christ and the apostles.

What are the best arguments I can use to disprove this sort of great apostasy claim?

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