Everything is going to work out. You don't have to worry. Channel that energy and build multiple

revenue streams like Dan did. Again, launched as a conference business doing 600 grand per year,

has a research business doing 200 grand per year in the form of, you know, 30, 40,000,

studies. Some of those studies do so well, he says, you know what, this has to be a book.

And so he's got back to human coming out soon here in November. Make sure you go grab it. This is the top entrepreneurs podcast where founders share how they started their companies

and got filthy rich or crash and burn.

Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines.

We went from a couple of hundred thousand dollars to $2.7 million.

They had no money when I started the company.

It was $160 million, which is the size of any IPOs.

We're a bit strapped.

We have like 22,000 customers.

With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time,

major outlets like Inc are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host,

Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Dan Shabell. He's a New York Times bestselling author,

partner and research director at Future Workplace and the founder of both millennial branding and Workplace Trends.com. His new book is called Back to Human, how great leaders create connection

in the age of isolation. I'm looking around because I have a copy somewhere around here.

And I was jumping into it. But Dan, are you ready to take us to the top?

Thanks so much for having me, Nathan. Excited to be here.

Yeah, you bet. So tell us first, like, again, you know, most of my audience are software folks.

When they think about writing a book, they go, why would I ever leave my software

business to write a book?

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