I'm pulling away from the curb because I dropped my son off at school. We all know what that means.

It's time for another drive to work. Okay. So, I recently did a podcast about Plain Shift because I realized,

somebody had pointed out in my blog that I had done a podcast on Invasion, because I had Bill Rose on, who was

the lead designer of Invasion, and we had talked all about it. But I had not done the two sets that

came after it in the block, Plane Shift and Apocalypse. And one of my goals is I would like to have

a podcast for every single set made, every expansion.

And I've done a lot of them, but I've not yet all of them.

So I'm slowly getting through to do all of them.

So as a companion, a podcast to Plainship, I'm doing one today on Apocalypse.

So Apocalypse has a pretty important place in my heart.

So let's go back a little bit and talk about the making of invasion and how we got to

apocalypse.

So for those that don't know, invasion, so Bill Rose becomes head designer during the previous block, but the first block that he

had sort of full control over is invasion.

And Bill's idea is that he wants to start adding themes into blocks.

That the blocks, like, before that, the blocks were about two mechanics.

And now it's like, okay, what if the blocks were about something?

I mean, we realize magic is, you know, far enough into his life here.

Invasion came out in 2000.

So we're talking seven years into magic.

Magic came out originally in 93.

And so the idea is, okay, let's have blocks mean something.

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