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Okay, so not much housekeeping here. Just a few words by way of context. This is the audio

of the event I didn't Boston a few months ago with Rebecca Goldstein and Max Teigmark.

I introduced them both from the stage, so you'll be reminded of who they are in a moment.

But we focus in this conversation on the foundations of human knowledge and morality as well.

It's really a conversation about what is and what matters. And as is often the case with

live events like this, there were some sound issues. The sound is definitely echoey and not perfect,

but I think you'll acclimate. Hopefully you'll find the conversation as interesting as I did.

And so now I give you Rebecca Goldstein and Max Teigmark.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Thank you. Thank you for coming out. I have some great guests tonight. I'm really looking forward

to this conversation. My first guest is a philosopher and a novelist. She has written about the

relationship between science and religion and science and values. And she's also just written

wonderful books on some famous people, Plato and Spinoza and Kurt Grotto. And she's received many

awards, including the MacArthur Fellowship and the National Humanities Medal from President Obama.

Please welcome Rebecca Goldstein.

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