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Bad People

120. We need to talk about Ethan

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Should the parents of a high school shooter be held criminally responsible for the actions of their son?

The landmark case of James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of US high school shooter Ethan Crumbley. They were charged with failing to prevent their son's fatal attack.

Presented by journalist and true crime documentary maker Amber Haque and criminal psychologist Dr Julia Shaw.

Producer: James Shield Executive Producer: Innes Bowen Production Coordinator: Juliette Harvey Mix Engineer: John Scott Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins Assistant Commissioner: Izzy Lee-Poulton

Transcript

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0:00.0

You are about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about what goes into making one.

0:06.5

I'm Sadata Sese, an assistant commissioner of podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:11.2

I pull a lot of levers to support a diverse range of podcasts on all sorts of subjects,

0:16.0

relationships, identity, comedy, even one that mixes poetry, music and inner city life.

0:22.4

So one day I'll be helping host develop their ideas,

0:25.6

the next fact-checking, a feature,

0:28.3

and the next looking at how a podcast connects with its audience.

0:32.3

And maybe that's you.

0:33.6

So if you like this podcast,

0:35.5

check out some others on BBC Sounds.

0:39.8

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

0:43.9

You're listening to Bad People on BBC Sounds, the podcast about the bad things people do and why.

0:49.2

This episode contains descriptions of violence.

0:55.1

I'm Sue. I'm from just outside Skipton in North Yorkshire. I've listened to bad people from the start and absolutely love it.

1:04.0

We're always asking bad people fans to tell us about the sorts of stories and issues that they're interested in.

1:08.9

And thank you for your suggestions, like this one from Sue, who got in touch to say that they're interested in. And thank you for your suggestions, like this

1:12.1

one from Sue, who got in touch to say that she's interested in the topic of fatal school shootings

1:18.5

committed by children in the United States. There are a horrifying number of incidents.

1:23.3

You know, when you Google it, loads come up. Children of various ages, people can just have guns and

1:28.9

leave them lying around. Children and especially sort of young people becoming teenagers,

1:34.1

they've just got such an innate curiosity about anything like that that it terrifies me. And I do

1:40.8

think parents should be responsible. Thank you, Sue. Well, Em and I both agree that the sometimes fatal consequences of kids being able to get a hold of firearms in the United States is a really important topic.

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