And hello everybody.

Welcome back to another edition of the untitled jeff gluck podcast i'm your host

jeff gluck today it's a 12 questions version of the podcast with matt kenseth now as you

might expect short and sweet interview today.

Matt Kenseth has a combination of dry humor and just not really wanting to elaborate or expand, I guess, on many of his answers.

So that's typically what you get with Matt Kenseth, and this interview was no different.

I picked Matt Kenseth, not because he's in the headlines this week with losing his ride

of Joe Gibbs Racing, but because Denny Hamlin, his teammate, had asked for a driver who

will have at least six or seven years of experience to answer the question for the next guy that Denny had.

And I checked with some other drivers who I hadn't done 12 questions with this year.

They were busy or unavailable in New Hampshire.

So I ended up with Matt Kenseth.

And yeah, take a listen.

All right, everybody, I'm here with Matt Kenseth.

And Matt, the first question is,

how much of your success is based on your natural ability

and how much has come from working at it?

Oh, man.

I mean, I feel like, I feel like for me, through the years, I've always never felt like I was an extra gifted,

talented driver, really.

I felt like especially early in my career before technology changing everything, I felt like

I understood cars probably better than some of the drivers that did that just came in and

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