Hello, hello. Welcome to the podcast. This is Owen Jones here. Today, James O'Brien.

Now, James O'Brien is a bit of a star in the world of radio and beyond. He's the best

selling author, of course, as well. He's the LBC presenter who's well-known for having

ding-dongs with callers for his very strongly held views, not least, of course, on Brexit.

He was a passionate and remains a passionate remainder. So, I want to talk to him. We've got

different perspectives. I'm a socialist. He's a liberal. But it's important to have these

sorts of discussions on this podcast. So, we're going to talk about a lot today. Is he

impressed by Keir Starmer? Does he think that maybe we could have settled on a soft

Brexit instead? Obviously, we'll have to talk a bit about Jeremy Corbyn when that re-litigating

that too much. But we need to have that conversation out as well as what's going on in the country

and the media landscape. We have a little chat about Andrew Neal for us that. Now, a bit

of housekeeping. We're all about offering in this podcast an alternative to the right-wing

media. Speak truth of power. Have a bit of fun as well. If you want to support us and

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of that, do settle back whatever you're doing and give this a listen. I think it's really

interesting. I'm very, very honoured to be interviewing a man who needs, he doesn't really need

an introduction, but I'll just say he's a best selling author. He's a flagship presenter

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