11. LIVE SHOW: WTF Is Going On With The EU?
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 31 January 2021
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
What is going on with the EU, vaccines, Article 16 and Northern Ireland? If you're completely baffled, this is the show for you. Joining me is Dr. Siva Thambisetty at LSE, Nick Dearden, Director of Global Justice UK, and Esther Lynch at the European Trade Union Confederation (ETUC).
Also joining me is Ben Smoke, one of the anti-deportation 'Stansted 15' activists who have just won their appeal.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hello everybody. Welcome to the show. Whether you're watching this or listening to |
| 0:15.7 | it on a podcast, which I'm very, very excited about, I'll explain a little bit more about |
| 0:19.1 | it. But please, if you are listening to it on the podcast, subscribe, give us a TQ 5 stars. |
| 0:23.7 | It just helps. Get the message out, get the podcast to build. But I will explain to anyone |
| 0:28.2 | who's baffled about that, because it's just something I'm very excited about. We've got a very |
| 0:32.2 | action-packed show today. In this era of crisis, we're generally lurching from one catastrophe to |
| 0:40.7 | another calamity. In this week, there has been one mighty standoff involving the European Union, |
| 0:46.0 | AstraZeneca and the UK. What on earth is going on? I know a lot of people are extremely baffled |
| 0:53.2 | about what's been happening. We've seen the temporary activation of Article 16, which would impose |
| 0:59.7 | a hard border on the island of Ireland by the European Union. Now, this caused consternation, |
| 1:05.2 | including amongst some people who would generally be considered pretty fervent supporters of the EU. |
| 1:10.8 | It unified Sinn Fein on the Republican side to the Democratic Unionist Party and the Hardcore |
| 1:17.2 | Unionist side up in the north of Ireland. Now, the EU have backtracked on that, but this is what's |
| 1:24.5 | interesting about it. Britain has one of the worst coronavirus calamities on the face of the earth. |
| 1:30.8 | One of the worst death tolls. The worst death rate, apart from at the moment, I believe Slovenia |
| 1:36.6 | and Belgium, whose population is a far smaller now, is making a meaningful comparison pretty |
| 1:43.1 | and yeah, vaccination is underway in Britain at an objectively very high speed. Now, most of |
| 1:50.8 | that is the first dose and the second dose, there's still a big lag there and the second dose is |
| 1:55.1 | absolutely critical. But in the European Union, there is a big problem with vaccination. Now, a lot of |
| 2:01.9 | this is, and we're going to talk about this dispute, kicking off between the EU and AstraZeneca |
| 2:06.8 | about the responsibilities the EU believes AstraZeneca has. There's a production crisis. A lot of |
| 2:13.2 | this is confusing, as I've said. Now, I brought in today three really brilliant experts are going to |
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