12. Does “As If” Thinking Really Work?
No Stupid Questions
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🗓️ 9 March 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I can do open heart surgery. Come on. I've seen it three times. |
| 0:06.8 | I'm Angela Duckworth. I'm Stephen Dubner. And you're listening to No Stupid Questions. |
| 0:12.0 | Today on the show, can you actually fake it till you make it? |
| 0:17.0 | So I'm a nine-year-old kid. Yeah, I can drive. |
| 0:20.0 | Also, why do placebos make us feel better? |
| 0:25.1 | Oh, I know you fell down and you're bleeding profusely, but I have a teaspoon of sugar for you. |
| 0:32.1 | Angela, I read about a psychological trick of sorts, and I'm wondering if it has any validity. Are you willing to |
| 0:39.3 | hear me out in past judgment? Of course I am. Go ahead. So the purpose of this trick is to get |
| 0:44.6 | yourself out of a depressive or bad mood, and this comes from Quora. I'll read the entry. It was |
| 0:50.9 | written by a mental health counselor named Aaron Doodle. I hope I'm |
| 0:55.0 | pronouncing it right, D-U-T-I-L. And he says this came from a client of his. So I'm quoting |
| 0:59.9 | Aaron Doodle talking about his client. When he woke up in the morning, if he felt the symptoms of |
| 1:05.2 | depression, he would pretend that he was an actor in a movie. After he would shower, he would |
| 1:09.6 | stare into his bathroom mirror and shout out |
| 1:11.9 | loud to himself, action. He would then act as if he was a non-depressed movie character. |
| 1:19.7 | Many times, people will allow the symptoms to keep them from functioning in their daily lives, |
| 1:24.3 | making the symptoms even worse. A vicious cycle soon occurs. Sometimes, if you |
| 1:28.9 | act as if long enough, you become that role for good or bad. So, Angela, I'm curious, |
| 1:35.8 | is this a real thing in your discipline, psychology, as if thinking? And if so, is it reliably |
| 1:41.8 | successful? Well, the short answer is, yes, it's a thing. |
| 1:46.8 | It often works to pretend that you're in a certain mood or you're acting in a certain social role. |
| 1:54.9 | There's one study about pretending to be an extrovert, being assert talkative the first to raise your hand in that |
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