meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Mormon Stories Podcast

1190: Scientology, and Parallels to the Beginnings of Mormonism - with Chris Shelton Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2019

⏱️ 66 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Today we sit down with ex-Scientologist and Youtuber Chris Shelton to discuss a brief history of Scientology - with a focus on parallels between Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard and Mormon church founder Joseph Smith.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

The story is a production of the Open Stories Foundation and relies solely upon the support

0:14.7

of people like you, its listeners.

0:17.0

To help keep the podcast alive or to become a member of the community, please become

0:21.2

a monthly subscriber by visiting mormasstories.org and clicking on the Donate button on the

0:26.5

right side of the page under Support.

0:29.2

While contributions to mormas stories are completely tax deductible in the United States

0:33.6

and go towards producing the podcast and building communities and programs of support for mormas

0:39.0

like you.

0:40.0

Thanks for your support.

0:59.2

I was actually get a reference one through the clue of the cookies next.

1:12.4

I was also going to talk about those lobotomies they used to do.

1:15.9

They used to do these crazy lobotomy procedures when they really had no idea what they were

1:19.8

doing.

1:20.8

I think they were solving significant illnesses and really they were just destroying people's

1:25.7

minds.

1:26.7

And so that's really important to understand that Scientology's contempt for mental health

1:33.5

services was rooted in a time where sort of post-Freudian but pre-CBT where there was

1:41.0

a lot of really dangerous scary stuff going on.

1:44.1

And frankly, he wasn't guessing about a treatment, you know, any more than Freud was.

1:51.4

You know what I'm saying?

1:52.8

Back in the day, there wasn't.

1:55.1

And of course, Skinner and Behaviourists and others started trying to bring a science

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. John Dehlin, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Dr. John Dehlin and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.