#1172 - This One Thing Makes Modern Worship Songs Terrible
The Counsel of Trent
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🗓️ 15 June 2026
⏱️ 14 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | There's something about modern worship songs that is really off-putting to me, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it until I heard news about one of my favorite worship songs from back in the day being turned super gay. |
| 0:11.4 | I won't quit my day job and become a songwriter, but I can tell you where these songs ultimately go wrong. |
| 0:17.8 | And it's not their failure to tell people to subscribe to the Council of Trent or support us at trendornpodcast.com so we can keep creating great content like this. No, they go wrong somewhere else. And you can see this in the 1997 song, Testify to Love from the Christian band Avalon. Even though it was from an evangelical group, you always heard this song at Catholic youth masses and |
| 0:38.1 | retreats. If you're a millennial or older from the life teen days, this should sound familiar. |
| 0:43.3 | So let me try. All the colors of the rainbow, all the voices of the wind. Every dream that |
| 0:50.3 | reaches out that reaches out to find where love begins. |
| 0:59.6 | Every word of every story, every star in every sky, |
| 1:04.3 | every corner of creation lives to testify. |
| 1:07.8 | And then there was a drum riff, okay, hit it, Avalon. |
| 1:14.9 | For as long as I shall live, I will testify to love. |
| 1:19.9 | I'll be a witness in the silences when words are not enough. |
| 1:25.4 | With every breath I take, I will give thanks to God of earth. For as long as I shall live, I will testify love. |
| 1:35.1 | Like shoulder pads in the 80s or frosted tips in the 90s, all I can say is it was a different time. |
| 1:41.5 | And that's also what two former band members from Avalon say |
| 1:45.0 | because they want to reclaim the song as having a gay meaning to it. |
| 1:49.5 | One of them is Michael Passons, who was kicked out of Avalon in 2003 |
| 1:52.7 | for engaging in sexual relations with men, not just for, quote, being gay. |
| 1:57.4 | Here's how Passen tells the story in an interview. |
| 1:59.9 | My bandmates were getting married. |
| 2:01.9 | They were all getting married. I was in all their weddings. And I was just getting angry that |
| 2:09.3 | their lives were going on. And I just started like, you know, WTF. Let's just, I'm just going to do my |
| 2:17.2 | thing. Because nothing's going to do my thing. |
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