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So welcome back to Mormon Stories Podcast.

I'm your host John DeLin.

It is August 19, 2019 and we are so thrilled to have back on Mormon Stories Podcast, Anthony

Miller.

And those of you who listen in sequence will have just listened to Anthony Miller's 456

hour depending on how you count, interview, I lost track, but talking about navigating

Mormon faith crisis gracefully as illustrated through his own story.

Now we're going to shift gears and we're going to share with you a presentation that Anthony

gave at the Thrive Conference in June 2019.

And let me just give a quick background.

What is Thrive?

Some friends came to me and said, hey John, we need to create some events that sort of show

...