116: Spirituality and Psychotherapy: Contradictory or Complementary? with Mike Christensen

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

David Burns, MD

Clinical, Therapy, Anxiety, Psychotherapy, Depression, Health & Fitness, Cognitive, Mentalhealth, Mental Health, Behavior, Education, Self-improvement, Psychology, Relationships, Addiction, Happiness, Personalgrowth

4.4 • 856 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2018

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

This dynamic interview covers the integration of TEAM-CBT with Christianity as well as Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, the Muslim faith, and more. Mike, Fabrice and I describe many areas of overlap, as well as some potential conflicts, between the teachings and methods of TEAM-CBT and religious beliefs. Mike and I suggest that religion and TEAM-CBT are, in fact, attempting to do the exact same things using slightly different language and symbolism. We strongly agree that at the moment of recovery, a person’s religious beliefs are nearly always strengthened and deepened, and never challenged or belittled.

Mike, Fabrice and I also discuss topics like religious scrupulosity, religious obsessions, cognitive distortions (John 8:32: “The truth will set you free”), and the so-called “dark night of the soul” described by Christian and Buddhist mystics. We also talk about the spiritual and psychological aspects of enlightenment (e.g. salvation), Should Statements, the Disarming Technique, forgiveness, repentance, the death of the ego, pride vs. humility, and more.

If you have an interest in religious or philosophical topics, you will love this podcast! You might also enjoy the podcasts with Marilyn on what to do when you've lost your belief in God and find yourself in darkness and intense suffering!

Mike Christensen treats individuals throughout Canada via teletherapy and also offers online training for mental health professionals throughout the world. If you have a question for Mike, or wish to contact him, you can find him at www.FeelingGoodInstitute.com.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast.
0:12.4	I am your host, Fabrice Nye.
0:14.7	And joining me here in the Murrieta Studios is Dr. David Burns.
0:19.0	Hi, David.
0:20.0	Hi, Fabrice.
0:23.8	Dr. David Burns has been a pioneer in the development of cognitive therapy, and he is the creator of the new team therapy. He is the author of
0:30.2	Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States, and has been translated into
0:35.5	over 20 languages.
0:43.0	He is an emeritus adjunct clinical professor of psychiatry at the Stanford University School of Medicine.
0:44.0	Welcome to episode 116 of the Feeling Good podcast.
0:48.2	We are doing a little bit of a special topic today and we have a guest with us who can enlighten us, hopefully.
0:58.1	We're going to be talking about religion and spirituality and how that fits with psychotherapy.
1:05.6	Before we dive into this, David, I think you had a few announcements for your upcoming workshops.
1:11.4	Oh, thank you, Fabrice. Yes, I almost forgot. I've got them right here. I have some upcoming workshops,
1:18.3	for those of you who are interested in some further training. On November 29th and 30th,
1:26.2	2018 and San Francisco, I'll be doing a two-day workshop, treat anxiety fast.
1:34.0	This is powerful, drug-free treatment for anxiety and worry, actually for all of the anxiety disorders.
1:43.5	It will be repeated December 3 and 4 in Portland,
1:48.0	Oregon. And the one in Portland will be live streaming as well as in person, so you can
1:53.0	attend this one on December 3 or 4, 2018 from anywhere in the world. Now this is sponsored by
2:00.0	Pessie, and if you want to register.
2:03.6	PESI, you go to their website or just call 800 844-8260. That's 800 844-8260.
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