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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

115. Turning Around in a Storm with David Shukman

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Persephonica

Planet, Climate, Policy, Business, Current Affairs, News, Science, Finance, Green, Environment, Society & Culture, Energy, Society

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Our struggle with the Climate Crisis begins with naming it, facing it, and engaging it.

Last week, the latest NDC Synthesis Report published showed that global emissions are on track to rise by 16% by 2030. With science screaming at the top of its lungs to get us to cut emissions 50% by 2030 to avoid catastrophic warming and climate tipping points, this 16% number says unequivocally, “we are headed in the wrong direction” as BBC Science Editor David Shukman tells us on today’s episode.

So that’s where we’re at. How do we face this moment with stubborn optimism? Tom dials up David to wrestle with the reality of how short our NDCs are of achieving the Paris Goals, and what mindset and ambition it will take to get our world’s biggest emitters to transparently confront this issue and reverse the course of rising emissions.

 

 

Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!

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Links mentioned in the episode:

 

NDC Synthesis Report

Climate change: UN warning over nations' climate plans - David Shukman

Young People's Voices on Climate Anxiety, Government Betrayal and Moral Injury: A Global Phenomenon

 

 

Thanks to our guest this week:

 

David Shukman

Science Editor | BBC News

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Christiana Figueres

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Tom Rivett-Carnac

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Paul Dickinson

LinkedIn | Twitter

 

 

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, it's Tom here.

0:02.8

So this week we have a fantastic episode of Outrageant Optimism for you which is coming

0:08.2

out on Thursday.

0:10.1

It's an episode where we dig in detail into a specific issue and what we do this week

0:15.5

is we look at the food systems summit, issues around agriculture, food commodities, how

0:20.8

those things are coming together.

0:21.8

It's a great conversation and that will be with you as normal on Thursday.

0:26.4

But the reason I'm talking to you now is because a couple of other really consequential

0:30.2

things have happened in the few days since we last published and I wanted to just make

0:34.4

this small, additional episode to help us dig into it because there's so much going

0:38.8

on right now.

0:40.6

One of these was around the attitudes of young people towards climate change.

0:45.1

This is a really fascinating and alarming study.

0:48.2

It was led by Bath University in collaboration with five other universities funded by our

0:53.8

good friends at Avaz and it was across 10 countries looking at people between the ages

0:59.3

of 16 and 25 and they spoke in all to 10,000 people.

1:04.5

Now the results demonstrate the severity of what we're facing.

1:07.8

Nearly 60% of young people said they felt very worried or extremely worried about climate

1:12.9

change and 45% said that they had feelings about climate change and anxieties and concerns

1:19.8

that profoundly affected their daily lives.

1:22.6

56% said they think that humanity is doomed and two thirds reported feeling sad, afraid

1:29.4

and anxious.

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