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Okay, we have a special guest today, Michael Majors. We're going to talk all about the set design of Modern Horizons 3.

Hi, Michael. Thanks for having me, Mark. Good to be here. Okay, so I talked with Eric. We talked about the vision design.

So when the set gets handed off to set design, I think there are two main themes that were handed off, which was Energy and

Kullis Mana, Aldrasi, whatever we refer to that part of it. So we're going to start talking about

those, and then we'll talk about you added some stuff later, so we'll get into that. you want to start energy or start with the al-drazi what do you want to start talking about

uh sure we'll start with the al-drazi um yeah what i mean what i think is really cool about the

altruzzi is obviously there's these these lofty expectations of you know these are kind

of the marquee villains of magic in some sense of the modern era with

emmercule and kuzlake and ulamaug being super iconic and uh you know powerful figures that

you know the the the gatewash could could barely contain and so forth so there's like these

huge expectations of like delivering on these cards that are

going to be dramatic and powerful and exciting. And yeah, getting to put a, you know,

a horizons-esque spin on them was a unique but super cool challenge. And then also just the fact

that again, that we're in a modern horizon sets, like what are the interesting matchups that we can do to incorporate into executing on Eldrazi that we couldn't do

in Battle for Zinnikar, Rise of the Eldrazi, or things along those lines.

Okay, so what are the challenges of Culles as a cost?

Yeah, so, I mean, in some ways, you know, it's sort of joked about, but it's not really a joke,

is that it's kind of the sixth color of magic. So, especially in the context of a limited format,

you know, you truly do have to give players opportunities to draft colorless mana and incorporate

into their deck seamlessly and, you know, be able to play their cards. So, um, you have to both create, uh, a reasonable incentive to actually draft those cutteless

cards and, you know, you know, sort of pay the cost of having to put those cards in their

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