I dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that his story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hi, everybody.

Welcome to the Soberful podcast.

This is Veronica Valley.

I have a really special interview today, one that I think that you're really going to get a lot out of.

It's with a very, very dear friend of mine.

And I'm calling this episode Transformational Sobriety, because honestly, there's really no other way I can describe this when I think of this person.

So I'd like to welcome my dear friend and also one of the Soberful coaches

within Soberful Life to the podcast. Welcome, Tamara. Oh, thanks, Veronica. Thanks for having me.

I'm excited. You're welcome. So, yeah, as I mentioned, you'll hear this in her story. I've

known Tamara for a long time. And she is one of the coaches in the Soap Before Life program and has done a wonderful job there, especially working with newcomers and people who are just getting started. We have lots of qualified and amazing coaches in the program. And if you are thinking of joining Soapful Life, we are opening for enrollment today.

So if you go to Soberful.com, you can sign up there.

There are so many great features to the program.

There is the regular support groups.

We've added a couple of new things, actually.

One of the things we've added is because we get such a great reaction to the podcast,

Chip and I are going to do a discussion group the day after the podcast drops within So Before Life.

So whatever the subject is that we were discussing, we're going to just have a discussion group on that.

So we can go deeper into it and people can ask questions.

So that's something that we've added

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