Marsha and Saga here. Welcome back to the Realignment.

The problem with Brazil has always been to people who wield the greatest power never have

any meaningful accountability or meaningful challenges. And therefore, can prop the

GNDIS for public, can control and manipulate the public, and the only real panic that my

view is journalism is shining all night on what they're actually doing. And that's what

the book it's about is our attempt to do that. And I think in the US, the same thing,

a big part of why I think American politics is going so off track is because our dominant

media has completely lost sight of what top-of-the-core journalistic values are. And it's a reason

why I think the media needs to much more attention to what these debates around journalism

are about a lot more than just a bunch of like reporters, you know, vicarying with one another.

It's about how the society functions.

We wanted something really specific from our episode with Glenn Greenwald. We did not

want to do an episode rehashing a year's worth of Twitter beef. We didn't want to do an

episode where we talked about the media and clubhouse and Twitter. There are places to go

and have that conversation, but frankly, that's not the conversation we're interested

in bringing you on the realignment. The conversation we very specifically wanted to have is one

about Glenn's new book, Securing Democracy, My Fight for Press Freedom and Justice in Bolsonaro's

Brazil. I don't know anything about Brazil, at least until I read the book. And we wanted

to have an episode specific we focused on the history of Brazil, what's going on in Brazilian

politics, what we get right and wrong about Bolsonaro in Brazil. And we covered all of

that. It was so great to speak of Glenn about a topic that he's actually an expert on that

he actually lives very viscerally as a dissident in the country and also as a person whose

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