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dot me slash TFTS. The best way to be heard is to first listen. My name is Matt Abraham's,

and I teach strategic communication at Stanford Graduate School of Business. Welcome to Think Fast, Talk Smart, the podcast. Today, I am really excited to speak

with Julian Treasure. Julian is an expert on listening, speaking, and sound. He has presented

five TED Talks that have been viewed over 100 million times. He is a speaker, coach,

and author of How to Be Heard, Secrets of Powerful Speaking and Listening. Julian, thanks for being

here. Well, thank you for having me. Yes, I have to admit that I'm a bit of a fanboy for your content.

I've used your talks in my classes for years, and I look forward to our conversation.

Shall we get started?

Please.

All right.

Over the course of our many episodes, the importance and value of listening in our personal and professional

lives has been mentioned time and time again. Can you share why listening is so important?

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