Hello and welcome to Catholic Dance's Live. I'm Cikella, your host is happy as can be

to be back here in front of this microphone. Thanks so much for being here with us. Say,

if you're a Catholic today, I'd say hold off, because we're going to leave all the lines

open both hours for non-Catholics. It's an open form for non-Catholics. So we are calling out

to our non-Catholic friends, brothers and sisters and saying, we need you to call with your

questions today. Otherwise, it is going to be the dullest of shows. If you're not a Catholic and

you have a question about the Catholic faith, you are welcome to call 888-318-788-4. And that means

anybody, if you're not a Christian at all, and you might be interested in the person of Jesus,

or you want to know why we believe in God, or you want to know where the Bible came from,

or maybe you're a fellow Christian, and you want to know about the Catholic understanding of

the sacraments, or the papacy, or anything else, 888-318-788-4. All I would say is don't be shy,

because it is not a show unless you call 888-318-788-4. Second-hour Tim Staples will be here.

This hour from Reason and Theology, which you should check out at Reason and Theology.com,

or on YouTube, it's our good friend, Michael Lofton. Michael, thanks for being with us.

Hey, sorry, thanks for having me back on. And by the way, I love the koala there. Now,

I'm thinking I need to get one on my microphone too. That's because I'm going to Australia.

Is that what it is? Yeah, I'm getting ready. I'm starting to prepare myself to head down there

to Australia. I should probably get a keybie to go on the other side, because I'm also going to

New Zealand, which, yeah, do you know what New Zealanders, people from New Zealand are called New Zealanders?

And when you meet them, this is what they say. We're not the same country as Australia.

I feel like maybe just start the conversation some other way. You don't always have to start with,

we're not the same country as Australia. So we just have to put it out there. Yeah, it's like the

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