In ice hockey, what three things make up a gaudy Howe hat trick?

The answer to that at the end of the show.

My name's Tom Scott, and this is Lateral.

Welcome to the show that your parents call that roundabout logic thing, or the diagonal thinking program,

or, you know, him, him, trying to remember why they've all put the remote.

First, we welcome back to the show.

Makers extraordinaire, Evan and Caitlin.

Welcome back.

Ooh, thanks for having us.

Yes, we're so excited.

We've been looking forward to coming back ever since we left the last time. This is such a fun game for us. Oh, it's lovely to hear because, like, we ask a lot of folks on this show. Like, there is a lot of brain power required here. We love it. We love being tested. The last time I saw your videos, you were making a tungsten dice. like the heaviest possible dice. Do you still have that somewhere?

Is that just... last time I saw your videos, you were making a tungsten dice, like the heaviest possible dice.

Do you still have that somewhere? Is that just just weighing down a shelf? It is weighing down a shelf

currently. It's in one of our backdrops. It's a joy to roll, but also you have to choose where

you roll it very carefully, because it is 20 pounds.

It's a weapon, and you really don't want to drop it on your toe.

Like, it's a closed-toed shoes-only activity to roll it.

You need safety shoes to play Dungeons and Dragons.

Yes.

What other stuff have you been working on?

Because last time I saw you, it was out at open source in California.

Which is a great event. Love it. Um, we're working on currently, and I don't know exactly when

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