What does it take to lead your team through massive shifts – without losing momentum, morale, or the mission?

In this episode, Kelly is joined by leadership expert Jenni Catron, a former executive leader at major brands like Zondervan and Menlo Church, and the founder of The 4Sight Group. 

Together, they unpack what it really means to lead with clarity, conviction, and culture when your business is going through change.

From restructuring your org chart to reinventing your business model, this conversation gives you the tools to show up as the kind of leader your team needs now. 

Jenni shares her proven 4 Dimensions of Leadership framework and offers real-world insight into how high-capacity teams stay aligned and energized – even in the middle of disruption.

If you're undergoing massive restructuring or changes in your organization, this episode will help you navigate through this season of business. 

Key Takeaways:

• Leadership isn't optional in disruption. Jenni explains why people don’t just want direction—they want someone to believe in.
  
  

• The 4 Dimensions of Leadership. Learn how to lead with vision, strategy, people, and results to create lasting momentum.
  
  

• Overcommunicate on purpose. Your team needs clarity more than certainty. Reinforce values, vision, and next steps.
  
  

• Don’t hide the hard. Jenni and Kelly both emphasize the importance of acknowledging challenges while pointing to possibility.
  
  

• Create alignment, not agreement. You don’t need full consensus to move forward—but you do need everyone moving in the same direction.
  
  

• Culture is caught, not taught. Your tone, body language, and daily habits reinforce what’s really important during transition.
  
  

• Don’t lead like a manager. You’re not just here to execute tasks—you’re here to cast vision and carry people through uncertainty.
  
  

• Coaching > Coddling. High-performing teams crave clarity and challenge, not comfort.
  
  

Timestamps:

02:30 – What Jenni sees in top-performing teams during transition
05:40 – The difference between change and disruption
08:10 – Kelly and Jenni on leading through organizational shifts
11:50 – How to reestablish trust and buy-in when everything changes
14:35 – Jenni breaks down the 4 Dimensions of Leadership
17:20 – Overcommunication as a leadership strategy
20:00 – The importance of rhythm, consistency, and modeling
22:45 – How to anchor culture without clinging to the past
25:30 – Why the CEO sets the emotional tone of the team
28:00 – Coaching through uncertainty while keeping expectations high

Resources:

• Learn more about Jenni Catron and The 4Sight Group: https://www.get4sight.com/services 

• Get Jenni’s book The 4 Dimensions of Extraordinary Leadership: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Dimensions-Extraordinary-Leadership-Strength/dp/1400205700?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jttTcSppQiFZBIlJf8ndDWszoeKqEl4Pw3H7Ng4gOoTS5Kq398ITrmboJ1YFiv8q.7cuLBshG8m7W4WI2IX0rTPlnRzr69zOxMaJbyWdnlWs&qid=1727906705&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=jenncatr-20&linkId=d0bda6310cb520af81bceef26ae5e849&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl 

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