I think for many Mormons, if they were presented with miracle claims in Catholicism, for example,

like Marian apparitions, Eucharistic miracles, do you think that a demonic explanation could at least be on the table for them?

Those are the things that I struggle with as far as I don't have a great answer, but just to label it as demonic, I think is, I was going to say dishonest, but maybe just, it's lazy.

Hey, everyone, welcome to the Council of Trent. Today, I have invited Hayden Carroll from Let's

Talk with Hayden Carroll. Hayden is an apologist for the Church of Jesus Christ of

Latter-day Saints, also known as the Mormon Church,

Mormonism. And he did a video on his channel recently talking about the strongest argument

against Mormonism. Yours truly was featured in it with an interesting pairing with myself

and Protestant pastor Mark Driscoll. I'd never thought we'd be paired up together in something.

And so I thought about doing like, you know, a reply and sending it to Hayden and, you know, that kind of approach.

I thought it'd be more fun just to just invite him, come here and we could just have a little bit of a chat about the parts, you know, parts I disagree with.

There's other parts I actually to agree with. So Hayden, welcome to the council of Trent. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm a big fan. So it's really a pleasure to be here. Sure. Why don't you tell us, tell our audience just a little bit more about yourself and your channel. Yeah. So like Trent said, I'm a Latter-day Saint and I do my best to give a defense for the

Church of Latter-day Saints.

I, the channel, my personal channel just started about two weeks, two months ago rather.

I've been in the online space with Jacob Hanson and Thoughtful Faith and others for about

four or five years, but this is my own channel.

And essentially what I do is I go set out a table mostly at Arizona State University here

in Phoenix.

And I have a banner, provocative banner, about atheism or about creedal Christianity, and then we

have conversations with students who walk by.

So it's been really fun and got a lot of good, got a lot of good support so far in the first few months.

Sure. Well, let's jump into the video that you gave called the strongest argument against Mormonism.

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