If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go.

MIND, MIND, MIND, UP with your hosts.

Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.

Alright, so in this episode of Mind Pump, we interview an individual not super well known at the moment,

but he reached out to us a while ago, and you know, we get a lot of people that reach out to us want to go down the show,

and nine out of ten times we turn them down, but this guy's story intrigued us a little bit.

He's been on a couple of podcasts that are good friends of ours, both Rich Roll and Tom Billu,

and I thought he had a really good story too.

Yeah, and so, you know, I got on the phone with him before we decided to have him on the show, and I talked to him.

And his story was compelling.

I think a lot of you are going to relate to his experiences through fitness.

This guy had a real rough childhood, eventually went to prison for drugs, and fitness kind of turned his life around.

And he's a very vulnerable, honest individual.

I enjoyed doing this interview. I think you'll like it as well.

Now, before we start this episode, I want to remind everybody that this is the final hours for the MAPS OCR program launch.

Okay, so you only have a few hours left for the $30 off discount code and the free t-shirt that's coming with the launch.

So here's what you do if you want MAPS OCR.

And I remember MAPS OCR is the program designed to get you ready to complete or do an obstacle course race,

or just get fit like somebody that would do an obstacle course race.

There's a lot of stamina implemented endurance strength, grip work, there's daily toughening exercises.

It's our most different and one of the funnest exercises that we've ever written.

And we co-wrote it with OCR Champion Amelia Boone.

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