111. New Systems and New Power with Dame Ellen MacArthur & Guest Co-Host Catherine Howarth
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 22 July 2021
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
This week, The Circular Economy!
Currently our economy operates in a linear way. Take, Make, Dispose. It’s based on the industrial revolution, and we know this way of doing things has limits. Some of those limits we are reaching even today.
But there’s a different economy we could create. The Circular Economy.
This week we explore the ‘Circular Economy’ with #1 Circular Economy advocate, Dame Ellen MacArthur. This brand new economy is all about designing out waste and pollution, keeping products and materials in use, and regenerating natural systems. It incentivizes manufacturers to create and maintain better products, stops the Global North from polluting the Global South, and has the potential to regenerate wildlife and ecosystems that are on the brink of collapsing.
And with Christiana and Tom out this week, we invite special guest co-host, Catherine Howarth, CEO of Share Action, to discuss what it will take to encourage regenerative economic practices? Are we at a tipping point right now? Is a green, equitable, regenerative global society finally close to our grasp?
And later on in the episode, join us for a soulful acoustic performance of “What Can I Do?” by Rachel Sermanni.
Thanks for joining us!
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Thank you to our guest this week, Dame Ellen Macarthur!
Dame Ellen MacArthur
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Thank you to our Guest Co-host, Catherine Howarth!
Catherine Howarth
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outrage an Optimism. I'm Paul Dickinson and once again I will be |
| 0:17.6 | alone at the helm while Tom and Cristiano are away. This week I have enlisted the help |
| 0:22.9 | of a special guest co-host, Catherine Howarth, CEO of Share Action. Hello everyone. Our special |
| 0:30.0 | guest interview this week is with Dame Ellen MacArthur, someone who has a great deal of experience |
| 0:34.5 | of being alone at the helm, but not so much with a co-host and Sharon and Clay, but really really |
| 0:39.5 | alone in the middle of the vast ocean, with the closest human in the International Space Station, |
| 0:44.0 | a world record-breaking sailor. Ellen is the leading advocate of the circular economy. |
| 0:49.5 | And our brilliant music this week comes from Folk Noir Balladier, a Rachel Sermani. Thanks for being here. |
| 1:05.6 | Well listeners, I'm very sorry Cristiano and Tom are away, but it does provide the opportunity for |
| 1:11.1 | some brilliant co-hosts, and nobody better than the completely and absolutely fabulous Catherine Howarth, |
| 1:17.2 | CEO of Share Action, where I have the honour to be her board chair, so I hope we will get an |
| 1:22.1 | understanding today of what an ice cool work Share Action are doing. Share Action is a charity |
| 1:27.3 | that spent last 12 years building the movement for responsible investment, and this makes her |
| 1:31.8 | Catherine one of the most qualified people to unpack what is really going on at the leading edge |
| 1:37.0 | of responsible investment. Now these are going to be tough questions, no more Mr. Nice Guy Paul, |
| 1:42.2 | I'm going to put Catherine on the spot, okay? So Catherine, can you start us off by saying, |
| 1:47.3 | why is the organization Share Action so brilliant? I mean, is this a leading question? Is it a tough |
| 1:51.6 | question? And what have you actually been doing to get in the newspapers almost daily? Is it true? |
| 1:57.2 | You've been busing around some of the world's biggest banks. Do you sit at the nexus of supreme |
| 2:02.1 | power between shareholders and corporate boards? What did that involve? Are you a kind of God Catherine? |
| 2:07.8 | No, I'm a kind of God-ess and the reason that we have shaken up a few things here and there |
| 2:18.2 | is of course because we are brilliantly chaired by your good self-port. Well, very spectacular for |
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