Welcome to the Neuson Health Menopause podcast. I'm Dr. Louise Newson, a GP and menopause

specialist and I'm also the founder of the Menopause charity. In addition, I run the Newston Health

Menopause and Well-Being Clinic here in Stratford-upon-Avon.

So today on the podcast I've got with me, Arabella Preston, who I've known for a few months now,

and I'm really keen to have I've been trying

to invite her to come on just to talk various things really about skin and also about facial hair,

which is something that many people don't talk about. So Arabella is the co-founder of an amazing company

called Votari, which we'll talk about it in detail in a bit. So just welcome,

Arabena, really kind that you're giving up some time today. Thank you for having me, Louise.

It's a total honour. I'm a big fan of the podcast. So, oh, thank you.

It's a me moment to be sitting here. Oh, so just remind me how we even met or were introduced

to each other, because I can't remember I hate to say.

My co-founder in the business, I don't think you'll mind me saying this, was a client,

do you call them at the clinic? Customer. Of course it's a patient. So my co-founder was a patient at Newsome Health. And she just wrote to the clinic and said, you know, I'm a patient, but I also happen to have a

skincare brand. I think probably our customers are your customers and vice versa. And we

definitely want to be talking to those women. And, you know, is there anything we could do together?

And you very kindly came straight back and were really keen and we

ended up doing an Instagram live and then I became one of your patients. Yes, in fact, that's right,

because we had, yes, you very kindly sent a few of your products which we can talk about some of it.

I get lots of emails, as you can imagine, asking to be a face behind, a name behind,

something behind some menopausal range, and I just say no to everything. But actually, you

weren't asking for that, so it's quite easy to say, well, let's just find out a bit more. And

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