Hello and welcome to Capagance was live. I am Psy Kelly to your host. Just delighted to be here with you. Thank you so much for being here with us on this Wednesday of Holy Week.

The most important week in the history of the world and I heard Tom Price earlier today he said it. I wanted to repeat how he said it when he was on with David Anders but the the biggest I can't remember the history is most important week or something like that I can't remember I'll look it up and think about it but and I'll get back to you on it today we have a very fine show for you second hour Jimmy will be here and we'll do an open forum and that is always great this hour because this is the week that we celebrate the resurrection this is the

week we celebrate the the foundation of the Eucharist and the priesthood and and so many wonderful things it's also the week that our Lord suffered the Lord who came to be with us as one of us this miracle beyond the possibility of asking for and then he suffers for us and dies for us and so that's what we're going to talk about this hour suffering with Jesus that the fact that the Lord

himself has suffered gives us a different perspective on suffering the Christian perspective on suffering is is different than you will find in any other

oh say philosophy or teaching or religion in the world here to help us talk about suffering with Jesus and please call if you have questions about that or you want to talk about

suffering in the Christian context 8883187884 here to help us do that is Simone Viscala we call her Ms. Riz and she's the director of program growth at endow groups she's an affiliate

apologist with us here at Kathy answers and also just a really fun person to talk to Simone thanks for being here with us

thank you so much guys great to be here we just got you on the phone for the moment we'll get you on the video and everything in a

second and that has nothing to do with that's not on your end Simone that's on our end we had a little technical glitch but I'm so glad

that you're here and I usually have a great deal of fun talking with you but I I suffering is a is a horrible reality and and I know you

teach a good part of what you do is teach the documents of the church many of them documents of of Pope John Paul the

second and this is something that he I mean we saw him suffer but we also received his teaching on suffering a great deal

why what I mean I really feel like sometimes you just want to ask why Lord why all this suffering yeah I mean that you know that's

that's the question I always kind of with this topic I do teach it we have an endow study guide on it but I mean that's the

ultimate theological question is why do we suffer because any intellectual response to that is just not going to

satisfy because we don't just suffer intellectually suffering intellectually is what we would call ignorance we suffer with our

whole person so any kind of intellectual explanation is offensive because number one it strips it of the mystery of

suffering but also because we suffer physically morally spiritually psychologically there's so many dimensions to yeah

to suffering and John Paul the second talked about that is that he you know he talked about suffering belonging to man's

transcended oh yeah so that and our intellect is not can be transcended in in other words we our intellect cannot

simply grasp and process the transcendent so if it's something that is connected to our own transcendence we we will and at some

point have to in humility accept that the Lord has a reason without being able to explain or exhaust given exhaustive

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