But I'm going back to Catholic Cancer's live.

I am Cikehelt your host.

One person gave up, so there is one line open now.

If you've got an obstacle to the Catholic faith you'd like to share with us, give us

call 888-318-7884, maybe you're a Catholic, and there's just some doctrine, some teaching

of the Catholic Church, maybe a moral principle that you go, I just cannot get behind it.

I cannot, if you're struggling with that, or maybe even not struggling, you gave up, but

it's still an obstacle to your full embrace of the Catholic faith.

You're welcome to give us call 888-318-7884, but also if you're outside the Catholic church,

if you've been thinking, maybe you're drawn to the Catholic faith, but there's something

that's in the way, or maybe it feels permanent to you.

You feel like, no, I've decided this is an obstacle, and I can't overcome it, and I'm

not coming in.

We'd still like to talk to you about it, 888-318-7884.

Carlo Bussard is our guest.

It's funny because I think I've been forgetting to introduce Carlo because we're on our

fourth hour of radio together today, because we did a pre-record earlier.

You tired of me yet?

No, I'm not tired of you.

I just feel like I'm taking you for granted by not describing the author of six books now

is that really true, or five books?

Five.

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