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The Addicted Mind Podcast

110: Saving Eric with Mary Burns

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Mental Health

4.8621 Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2020

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of The Addicted Mind Podcast, Duane speaks with author, teacher, and mother Mary Burns. During their discussion, Mary meditates on grief, loss, and her son’s struggle with addiction and mental illness.


As early as seven, Mary’s son, Eric, started to have something like screaming fits. She believed it was a phase that would pass. By the time he was a teenager, the screaming fits became “rages.” Looking back, Mary could tell that there was something wrong. The rages were extremely out of character. Eventually, he would turn to hard drugs.


After several months, Eric asked his mom for help. The hospitals, unfortunately, turned Eric away because they determined his addiction was not “severe enough.” In New Jersey, Mary was only able to get Eric checked into an outpatient facility with her insurance coverage. Her company only wanted to provide ten days treatment after his first relapse. Perhaps, she muses, Eric would have been able to work through his addiction and avoid relapse. 


Duane posits that the mythology of addiction is hurting our ability to really help people that are struggling in less visible ways. Four days before he died, he spoke of his strength through Jesus Christ. But for some reason, he took drugs, overdosed, and died. It shows just how insidious drugs are, Mary says.


Moving onto Eric’s death, Mary talks about how leaning on her faith really helped her to get through it. It gave her perspective to grasp onto the good times, despite all the loss. He struggled with life, but he let the good things reflect while absorbing the negative. She believes he’s in a better place, which is the little bit of hope she needs.


Since our understanding of addiction has moved from a moral issue to a genuine pathology, our attitudes have changed. But treatment has not kept up. Mary and Duane talk toward the end about how the protocol for addiction treatment needs serious reform to actually help the people that need attentive care. They need an intensive support network to really get them through it. The old philosophies come from old paradigms that misunderstand addiction. You don’t need to hit rock bottom, Duane says. There’s no such thing—you can get help now.





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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. My name is Dwayne Austerlund, and I'm your host,

0:11.8

and we are on to episode 110. Today, my guest is Mary Burns, and she is the author of the book, Saving Eric, a mother's

0:24.8

journey through her son's addiction. So she comes on to share some of her story and to advocate

0:31.8

for good addiction treatment for all the people out there that need it. What a powerful story and I could

0:39.9

really feel her grief and loss at losing her son Eric to addiction and it was just so courageous

0:49.1

of her to come on and share her story. So I hope it is helpful for all of you out there listening. Before we start,

0:57.5

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1:43.4

let's start this episode.

1:50.3

Hello, everyone.

1:51.7

Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast.

1:55.7

My guest today is Mary Burns, and she is the author of the book, Saving Eric, a mother's journey through her son's

2:04.7

addiction. Mary, I'm so happy to have you on the podcast and this is such an important story

2:11.2

that you have to tell. I think a lot of people who listen to the podcast have either lost a loved one to addiction or are scared about that

2:21.6

or are dealing with a person close to them that is struggling with addiction. So Mary,

2:27.6

I'm so glad to have you on the podcast. So please introduce yourself and we'll start there.

2:34.7

My name is Mary Burns.

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