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The Addicted Mind Podcast

109: Altogether You with Jenna Riemersma

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Mental Health, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.7655 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2020

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode of The Addicted Mind Podcast, Duane talks with author, speaker, and teacher Jenna Riemersma about internal family systems, or IFS. Jenna describes how IFS can help to transform your feelings about addictions and past trauma.


Jenna talks about how IFS argues that all of our parts are good. And as counterintuitive as that is, it’s important to understand that the core of your Self is fundamentally good.


Experiencing a “part” of yourself is similar to the idea of having “parts” of our personalities. We want to give those parts their credit because they come from our true Selves, which are good. When a part of us is taken over by a burden, it’s hard for us to take those parts back. Jenna gives an example of a playful part being burdened by a trauma. IFS calls these parts “exiles,” and they carry a lot of weight, especially when you want to try to access those formerly playful parts of yourself.


Jenna illustrates this point with the Manager and the addicted Firefighter, and how we have these competing identities who both want the destruction of addiction while simultaneously wanting to be free of addiction. The Manager wants to seek counsel, but the Firefighter is afraid of the change and pain. 10 times out of 10, the Firefighter actually hates contributing to that pain. We wouldn’t start with that kind of revelation, but we would eventually work our way toward the patient understanding that ultimately the center of their being wants to be free from addiction.


Being able to confront these parts of ourselves without judgment is key. Have you ever experienced a time where all parts of yourself have been welcomed, Jenna asks. IFS helps us to uncover what is already there by surrendering a quality of self that is locked up in shame and hate. Michelangelo once said of a sculpture that he was “releasing the angel trapped in the stone.”


We need to ask ourselves what am I feeling toward, and if it’s anything but the 8 Cs, we need to step back and try to change the situation. Do you think it’s possible to change the way that your Firefighter part sees the world? Many think that it’s impossible, but if you’re willing to at least engage in the process, IFS can help you to not feel so hopeless, so alarmed, and so defeated.


Jenna wants to emphasize that all parts of you are welcome, and all parts of you are safe here.


The 8 Cs of IFS are:

  • Calm
  • Connection
  • Compassion
  • Creativity
  • Clarity
  • Curiosity
  • Confidence, and
  • Courage




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0:00.0

Hello everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. My name is Dwayne Austerland and I'm your host. I'm also the founder of Novis Mindful Life Institute, Family Counseling Recovery Center in Long Beach, California. If you or anyone you know is struggling with any of life's challenges, reach out to us.

0:24.3

You can find more information about us at the addictedmind.com forward slash help.

0:30.4

All right.

0:30.8

So today's episode is with Jenna Remersma, and she is going to talk about internal family systems.

0:39.8

And I was excited to have her on the podcast because I've had some exposure to internal

0:46.7

family systems before, and I've done a couple trainings.

0:49.8

And I really love it as a way to talk to ourselves and understand the different parts of ourselves

0:59.1

in a compassionate and kind way and bring out our divine self, our loving self.

1:07.1

So Jenna shares her knowledge and wisdom in this episode and her passion for this work and even leads us through some examples of how you can do this.

1:19.1

So I think it's a great episode.

1:21.1

I think you guys will like it.

1:23.5

And I hope you enjoy it.

1:25.8

One more thing.

1:27.2

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1:34.7

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1:36.4

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1:39.9

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1:46.8

episode going.

1:54.9

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. My guest today is Jenna Remersma. And I'm really excited to have

2:06.7

Jenna on. She is going to talk about internal family systems and how that can be helpful

2:13.4

for anyone who's, I think, struggling with addiction, but a lot of different issues as well.

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